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现在Tower还值得去吗?
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发信人: xiaoxiaotan (tantan), 信区: Quant
标  题: 现在Tower还值得去吗?
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Fri Aug  4 15:34:41 2017, 美东)

最近有朋友小孩藤校毕业找到Tower一份工, 问我建议。我觉得很悬,首先公司规模人
数已经上千,外加里面的partner都搞得死走逃亡,各依天命。 当然啦,包裹保证的部
分好像比银行和FLG要稍好一些。求大伙给点建议哈。
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发信人: swordmans (风云第一刀), 信区: Quant
标  题: Re: 现在Tower还值得去吗?
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Fri Aug  4 18:39:16 2017, 美东)

看组,小组风险大
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发信人: xiaoxiaotan (tantan), 信区: Quant
标  题: Re: 现在Tower还值得去吗?
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Sat Aug  5 09:38:21 2017, 美东)

好像现在大的组只有法国队和印度队了吧。其他都是小组打游击


【 在 swordmans(风云第一刀) 的大作中提到: 】
<br>: 看组,小组风险大
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发信人: wiseseal (wiseseal), 信区: Quant
标  题: Re: 现在Tower还值得去吗?
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Sat Aug  5 18:25:17 2017, 美东)

这两个大组现在怎么样?还算稳定吗?

【 在 xiaoxiaotan (tantan) 的大作中提到: 】
: 好像现在大的组只有法国队和印度队了吧。其他都是小组打游击
:

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发信人: niubee (资深街霸卧槽立马勒戈壁), 信区: Quant
标  题: Re: 现在Tower还值得去吗?
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Sat Aug  5 18:32:22 2017, 美东)

这种垃圾公司就不要去了吧。

听说,随便一个华人回国开量化基金的,都可以做到稳定盈利。

这破公司都多少年了,还没有稳定盈利哥觉得totally shocked.

【 在 xiaoxiaotan (tantan) 的大作中提到: 】
: 最近有朋友小孩藤校毕业找到Tower一份工, 问我建议。我觉得很悬,首先公司规模人
: 数已经上千,外加里面的partner都搞得死走逃亡,各依天命。 当然啦,包裹保证的部
: 分好像比银行和FLG要稍好一些。求大伙给点建议哈。



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发信人: shabee (老年码工卧取泥码了个壁), 信区: Quant
标  题: Re: 现在Tower还值得去吗?
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Sun Aug  6 09:32:47 2017, 美东)

牛逼哥的小留生意比这些基金都要好的多

【 在 niubee (资深街霸卧槽立马勒戈壁) 的大作中提到: 】
: 这种垃圾公司就不要去了吧。
: 听说,随便一个华人回国开量化基金的,都可以做到稳定盈利。
: 这破公司都多少年了,还没有稳定盈利哥觉得totally shocked.




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发信人: xiaoxiaotan (tantan), 信区: Quant
标  题: Re: 现在Tower还值得去吗?
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Sun Aug  6 21:32:48 2017, 美东)

其实tower总体一直都是稳定盈利, 但公司和个人收入从来都不会是正相关。。。


【 在 niubee(资深街霸卧槽立马勒戈壁) 的大作中提到: 】
<br>: 这种垃圾公司就不要去了吧。
<br>: 听说,随便一个华人回国开量化基金的,都可以做到稳定盈利。
<br>: 这破公司都多少年了,还没有稳定盈利哥觉得totally shocked.
<br>

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发信人: demoner (New York State of Mind), 信区: Quant
标  题: Re: 现在Tower还值得去吗?
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Mon Aug  7 13:45:55 2017, 美东)

不要去Tower.

【 在 xiaoxiaotan (tantan) 的大作中提到: 】
: 最近有朋友小孩藤校毕业找到Tower一份工, 问我建议。我觉得很悬,首先公司规模人
: 数已经上千,外加里面的partner都搞得死走逃亡,各依天命。 当然啦,包裹保证的部
: 分好像比银行和FLG要稍好一些。求大伙给点建议哈。



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发信人: demoner (New York State of Mind), 信区: Quant
标  题: Re: 现在Tower还值得去吗?
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Mon Aug  7 13:49:46 2017, 美东)

一切不拿cut的买方职位都是扯淡的。

【 在 xiaoxiaotan (tantan) 的大作中提到: 】
: 其实tower总体一直都是稳定盈利, 但公司和个人收入从来都不会是正相关。。。
: <br>: 这种垃圾公司就不要去了吧。
: <br>: 听说,随便一个华人回国开量化基金的,都可以做到稳定盈利。
: <br>: 这破公司都多少年了,还没有稳定盈利哥觉得totally shocked.
: <br>



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发信人: xiaoxiaotan (tantan), 信区: Quant
标  题: Re: 现在Tower还值得去吗?
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Mon Aug  7 21:18:32 2017, 美东)

好吧 看来大家观点是一致的 多谢啦


【 在 demoner(New York State of Mind) 的大作中提到: 】
<br>: 一切不拿cut的买方职位都是扯淡的。
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发信人: apollolee (皮皮狗), 信区: Quant
标  题: Re: 现在Tower还值得去吗?
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Tue Aug  8 11:49:38 2017, 美东)

请问tower是没有pnl cut的么?

【 在 demoner (New York State of Mind) 的大作中提到: 】
: 一切不拿cut的买方职位都是扯淡的。




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发信人: niubibibi (), 信区: Quant
标  题: Re: 现在Tower还值得去吗?
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Tue Aug  8 16:53:55 2017, 美东)

Why there are so many people talking crap when they are not in or familiar
with the situation?  At least pls show some respect for a firm that's
surviving well during these touch times, and show some respect for the
people working there.

I am not trying to argue anything, but just want to state some FACTS!

1, Tower doesn't have 1000+ employee, and the partners who left had some
reason.

2, Tower has been under stable profit stage for a long time, if you believe
anybody can open a quant firm in China and make money and do better, then
you don't even need to be reading this forum.

3, If you believe No one in Tower is getting the cut, then you are just
totally acting like fool here.


To Answer lou zhu's question, many firms are worth going in this market, it
all depends on what's the position and what's compensation or package for
you.

To those acting like fool here, please be aware that your statement is being
viewed by thousands people who potentially know more than you. Then you
really are fool to them.  Or, when people know less than you see your
statement, you maybe affecting some people's decision.

Please be responsible about what you say.


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发信人: pxu (又呱噪又抠门还偷老婆钱), 信区: Quant
标  题: Re: 现在Tower还值得去吗?
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Wed Aug  9 14:38:03 2017, 美东)

Tower最近在reorg裁人,对吧?


【 在 niubibibi () 的大作中提到: 】
: Why there are so many people talking crap when they are not in or familiar
: with the situation?  At least pls show some respect for a firm that's
: surviving well during these touch times, and show some respect for the
: people working there.
: I am not trying to argue anything, but just want to state some FACTS!
: 1, Tower doesn't have 1000+ employee, and the partners who left had some
: reason.
: 2, Tower has been under stable profit stage for a long time, if you
believe
: anybody can open a quant firm in China and make money and do better, then
: you don't even need to be reading this forum.
: ...................



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发信人: xiaoxiaotan (tantan), 信区: Quant
标  题: Re: 现在Tower还值得去吗?
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Thu Aug 10 01:03:41 2017, 美东)

多谢回复! 这位大哥一定是内部人士啊! Tower是个好公司从它不太裁人可以看出来。
只是法国人上位以后 做的一些恶心事坑了我的好几个朋友。所以我不太看好小中去那
的发展前途。


【 在 niubibibi(niubibibi) 的大作中提到: 】
<br>: Why there are so many people talking crap when they are not in or
familiar
<br>: with the situation?  At least pls show some respect for a firm that's
<br>: surviving well during these touch times, and show some respect for the
<br>: people working there.
<br>: I am not trying to argue anything, but just want to state some FACTS!
<br>: 1, Tower doesn't have 1000  employee, and the partners who left had
some
<br>: reason.
<br>: 2, Tower has been under stable profit stage for a long time, if you
believe
<br>: anybody can open a quant firm in China and make money and do better,
then
<br>: you don't even need to be reading this forum.
: ...................
<br>
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发信人: xiaoxiaotan (tantan), 信区: Quant
标  题: Re: 现在Tower还值得去吗?
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Thu Aug 10 01:04:30 2017, 美东)

怎么可能所有职位都没有。。。这个黑得过了


【 在 apollolee(皮皮狗) 的大作中提到: 】
<br>: 请问tower是没有pnl cut的么?
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发信人: niubibibi (niubibibi), 信区: Quant
标  题: Re: 现在Tower还值得去吗?
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Thu Aug 10 11:19:37 2017, 美东)


In General, it is better to to trading teams, that way you may escape from
any corporate politics






【 在 xiaoxiaotan (tantan) 的大作中提到: 】
: 多谢回复! 这位大哥一定是内部人士啊! Tower是个好公司从它不太裁人可以看出来。
: 只是法国人上位以后 做的一些恶心事坑了我的好几个朋友。所以我不太看好小中去那
: 的发展前途。
: <br>: Why there are so many people talking crap when they are not in or
: familiar
: <br>: with the situation?  At least pls show some respect for a firm that'
s
: <br>: surviving well during these touch times, and show some respect for
the
: <br>: people working there.
: <br>: I am not trying to argue anything, but just want to state some FACTS!
: <br>: 1, Tower doesn't have 1000  employee, and the partners who left had
: ...................



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发信人: demoner (New York State of Mind), 信区: Quant
标  题: Re: 现在Tower还值得去吗?
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Mon Aug 14 09:32:55 2017, 美东)

No one is saying "No one in Tower is getting the cut". If you are just cut-
and-paste to make meanings, then you are the one who is acting like a fool.

People are just making suggestions for buy side positions as general
comments on this board, Of coz with-cut positions are they way to go,
otherwise why you wanna go buy side? why not just go for Google of Facebook
for high salaries?

And no need to be 愤青 here, take it easy, if you know something, then say
something, people who think others are fools are usually fools themselves.
And you even believe MITbbs will be able to destroy Tower, or make Tower the
best place to go?  


【 在 niubibibi () 的大作中提到: 】
: Why there are so many people talking crap when they are not in or familiar
: with the situation?  At least pls show some respect for a firm that's
: surviving well during these touch times, and show some respect for the
: people working there.
: I am not trying to argue anything, but just want to state some FACTS!
: 1, Tower doesn't have 1000+ employee, and the partners who left had some
: reason.
: 2, Tower has been under stable profit stage for a long time, if you
believe
: anybody can open a quant firm in China and make money and do better, then
: you don't even need to be reading this forum.
: ...................



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发信人: echostate (用不起昵称), 信区: Quant
标  题: Re: 现在Tower还值得去吗?
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Mon Aug 14 09:56:56 2017, 美东)

大的fund很多都不给cut,但是做得好的bonus还是比硅谷可观很多的

【 在 demoner (New York State of Mind) 的大作中提到: 】
: No one is saying "No one in Tower is getting the cut". If you are just cut-
: and-paste to make meanings, then you are the one who is acting like a fool.
: People are just making suggestions for buy side positions as general
: comments on this board, Of coz with-cut positions are they way to go,
: otherwise why you wanna go buy side? why not just go for Google of
Facebook
: for high salaries?
: And no need to be 愤青 here, take it easy, if you know something, then say
: something, people who think others are fools are usually fools themselves.
: And you even believe MITbbs will be able to destroy Tower, or make Tower
the
:  best place to go?  
: ...................



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发信人: inspiron1975 (id借偶一用), 信区: Quant
标  题: Re: 现在Tower还值得去吗?
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Mon Aug 14 14:52:36 2017, 美东)

Tower is not Tower many years ago, but it is still a great company for
people with experiences. Talking about no p&l cut in Tower  is ridiculous.
The biggest problem in Tower is that the trading teams took too high cuts,
and the partners of Tower got too few. Certainly, if you can not contribute
to p&l, you got no cut.

Is it good for a fresh graduate? If you went to IT team, it is not good. If
you can join a good trading team, it is very good, such as Latour.
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标  题: Re: 现在Tower还值得去吗?
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Mon Aug 14 17:32:36 2017, 美东)

Is it possible to get into latour without speaking French?? I heard the
opposite abt trading teams got too much and partners got too little... PMs
are complaining abt ridiculous fees like consulting fee charged by CRO or so.


【 在 inspiron1975(id借偶一用) 的大作中提到: 】
<br>: Tower is not Tower many years ago, but it is still a great company for
<br>: people with experiences. Talking about no p
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